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Curbie - I suggest any ideas for enhancements be collected by someone else (KIM?). I'll gather a list of buyers. I'll make sure this list is forwarded to the correct people at the correct companies (sorry to be so vague). BTW -- The impression I was left with is when EDP production resumes, it will be in far far great numbers. My personal opinion is many of your suggestions are good ones, but any suggestions for big changes in the hardware may risk slowing and delaying any resumed production. ...Somewhat like asking your spouse to come back after a separation, but then asking that they get the facial surgery you had wanted them to get before. Not much of a come-on, eh? If Kim can collect these ideas and sort them into "Easy" "Hard" "Don't know" categories then maybe that can help get the easy ideas into the production loop (!!) David Kirkdorffer -----Original Message----- From: Steve Han [mailto:curbfeeler@transworld-lax.com] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 3:15 PM To: 'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com' Cc: 'DKirkdorffer@exapps.com' Subject: RE: EDP -- Group Buy II David, Great idea. Upon consolidating the orders, I propose we discuss improvements to be made for the newly produced EDPs. My comments are as follows: ****** "EDPs Input and Output levels are extremely sensitive and difficult to set visually as each individual EDPs I/O level settings are at different positions from eachother to reach the same level setting." "This is from reviewing 6 different EDPs consisting of my 2 EDPs and 4 others owned by friends." "BrotherSync is a myth and does not work, showing 'error' message, even with Master to Slave settings." "This maybe in part my fault from not knowing the intricacy in manipulating the EDP Sync system but I can't figure it out from the manual or on a EDP e-group." "Sync-ing with Midi In/Out/Thru works but the sync falls out of unison after approximately 8 minutes, fully discernable after about 12 to 13 minutes." "Foot Controller is very fragile and temperamental." "The Buttons (red) of the pedal are made of circuitry of the cheapest kinds and with the precise timing the EDP requires for performance, they are difficult to control with these cheap red buttons which behave unpredictably at times." "The maximum EDP capability of 198 seconds should be Standard for all newly produced units." "Most local Music Stores want to charge arm and a leg for a unit of EDP and if you want the pedal with it, they'll try to milk you for another $100 to $125." "Taking minimum 3 months to receive one from Gibson, only the true, dedicated loopers will order EDP while the EDP's capability can be marketed to the general musician and when advertised smartly, it can become a must have for every serious musician." "The price of Echoplex Digital Pro are prohibitive." "Mid $500.00 to mid $600.00 seems reasonable, which should include the pedal as part of the unit." "This is my opinion and experience and does not represent any other persons, groups, or identity." *********** I hope someone at Opcode / Gibson will give the above points some thought. The more popular the EDP, the more accessible to us the price and availability. Perhaps we should be promoting the EDP to every musicians, magazines, and music stores we know. I know some of us are already trying to promote EDPs but think of it... A pair of EDPs in every musician's garage... Thanks for the effort David. Curbie -----Original Message----- From: David Kirkdorffer [SMTP:DKirkdorffer@exapps.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 9:46 AM To: 'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'; Loopers-Delight-d@annihilist.com Subject: EDP -- Group Buy II I cannot think of a better way to stimulate GIBSON into EDP production than a long list of profitable orders waiting to be fulfilled. With that in mind, I'm starting a list of people who really want to buy a NEW EDP. This list will be submitted to whoever picks up the production of the EDP. Clearly we can't KNOW the price of the unit at this time, so please assume it will be in the same $650-$700 range as before. I will NOT be accepting any money. I will not be a middleman. BUT, I WILL make sure this list is in the hands of people who can get the EDP produced again. I am providing two forms: A. "ABSOLUTELY 100% COMMITED TO BUY AN EDP IF I CAN FIND ONE" ORDERS FORM B. "ONLY 99% OR LESS COMMITED" ORDERS FORM If you are ABSOLUTELY COMMITED and seriously want to buy an EDP, then use FORM A. If you're on the fence or uncommitted to paying $650-$700 for an NEW EDP, then use FORM B. KIM -- would you feel it is appropriate to post this form to the LD web-site? David Kirkdorffer ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------- FORM A A. "ABSOLUTELY 100% COMMITED TO BUY AN EDP IF I CAN FIND ONE" ORDERS FORM Please provide the following details in the following format: A. NAME: A. MAILING ADDRESS: A. DAY PHONE: A. NIGHT PHONE: A. E-MAIL: A. NUMBER OF EDP'S YOU WANT TO ORDER: A. DATE YOU SUBMIT YOUR REQUEST TO GROUP BUY II: A. HOW MANY EDP'S DO YOU ALREADY OWN? A. DO YOU ALREADY OWN ANOTHER "LOOPER"? A. WHAT INSTRUMENT(S) DO YOU PLAY? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------- FORM B B. "ONLY 99% OR LESS COMMITED" ORDERS FORM Please provide the following details in the following format: B. NAME: B. MAILING ADDRESS: B. DAY PHONE: B. NIGHT PHONE: B. E-MAIL: B. NUMBER OF EDP'S YOU WANT TO ORDER: B. DATE YOU SUBMIT YOUR REQUEST TO GROUP BUY II: B. HOW MANY EDP'S DO YOU ALREADY OWN? B. DO YOU ALREADY OWN ANOTHER "LOOPER"? B. WHAT INSTRUMENT(S) DO YOU PLAY? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------