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OK, this is not the in depth, well thought out missive that I hope to share at some point in the future, but it seems timely. This is a "seat of my pants" posting that will probably raise more questions than it answers. It also adds to the already too long list of looping devices that are no longer in production. I nominate the Digitech GSP-2101 Artist(with 2nd SDISC installed). Think of it as the poor(er) man's Eventide. Good stuff- * a nice variety of delay types: mono, stereo, 2Tap, 4Tap, modulated, sampler * a lot of other effects: chorus, flange, pitch shift, detune, whammy, phasers, auto pan, mixers, EQs * a preamp that can go from clean to grunge * up to 10 parameters can be assigned to midi cc * and most important, user defined algorithms Not so good stuff- * max delay time 10 sec * no start/stop record capability (except for the samplers I guess. I really haven't figured them out yet) * no tap tempo I've owned this thing for over a year, but it's just recently that I've started to ponder its looping capabilities. I think it was a combination of Kim's posting on micro (granular?) looping with the EDP & the various threads on multitrack looping & the JamMan upgrade that made the light bulb turn on over my head. Imagine the following algorithm. You have 4 parallel effects paths. Three of these paths each contain a delay module, a pitch shifter, & an auto panner. Use 3 midi cc's to engage the individual repeat holds. Use 3 midi cc's to turn each paths volume on & off. Assign all three pitch shifters to an expression pedal. Use your remaining cc assignment to switch between clean & distorted preamp. On the 4th path, place yet another delay or other effect & a cabinet emulator. This is your "live" lead/solo path. In addition to the midi assignments, up to three parameters can be quickly accessed by special function buttons on the front panel. All in all, I think this is the best box that Digitech ever made. The manual is available at http://www.digitech.com Hey, it's time to go home! Ask 'em if ya got 'em. John === John Tidwell _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com