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I'm not sure if this is the sort of thing you're talking about, but you might enjoy the Koan generative software by SSEYO. <http://www.sseyo.com/> It's used by Jamuud of Loop Guru, Brian Eno, etc. Also, I've seen some mention of using fractal software for sound generation, but haven't tried it myself. Try a search of the fractal sites, and you might find something along those lines. Tim At 08:36 PM 7/12/99 EDT, you wrote: >does anybody know of any company(or persons) >that make any of these things? > >particularly the random midi info generation >or fx processor >hell, any of it > >i have the k2000 which has a hidden random dsp thing but its a pain to >work >with > >appreciate the help > >rodrigo > >