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> Oddly enough the Blackface ADATs were 'Pre-GT' BS.... > (Alesis bought groove tubes) Does that mean Aspen Pittman will quit griping about things not powered with valves - or that we should expect the Quadraverb 3 to have "real tube distortion"? Mike Wishing Groove Tubes had been bought out by Peavey.... _____________________________________________________________ Mike Hughes, Ph.D. Tel: (+44) 1483 300800 x2344 Lecturer in Biomedical Engineering, Fax: (+44) 1483 306039 University of Surrey, EMail: m.hughes@surrey.ac.uk Guildford, Surrey, UK www.surrey.ac.uk/MME/Research/BioMed