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I have been using a Roland VS-1680 for the last year and I love it. I use it in a small project studio and to record live shows. Check out http://www.vsplanet.com for more detailed info. They are now shipping the new VS's with Logic Audio VS, which integrates the VS with your computer via MIDI. FWIW, Korg announced a unit much like the VS-1680 called the D16, but somewhat more powerful and smaller to be available in the Fall. http://www.harmonycentral.com/Newp/SNAMM99/Korg/D16.html What's interesting is that it has a built-in drum machine and tuner. I guess I'll just wait for the Roland VS-2480. ;-) -----Original Message----- From: Phaedebk@aol.com [mailto:Phaedebk@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, July 31, 1999 9:30 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Still seeking advice on a good portable 16-track HD recorder Qabalah, It's made by Roland US, and they are typically in the $1200.00 to $1600.00 US price range. Really happening and simple units, though you'll need to be a bit gentle with it. Check out http://www.rolandus.com for more information... I believe it's another 8 track, but another option is the few that are mini disk recorders, but then you start really dealing with compression issues. Tchus, Lee-ohki.