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Dpcoffin's Illustrator gear block diagram is an example of one of the things I love about this endeavor. I use Illustrator myself, but I suppose it's overkill for those who aren't graphics professionals. I think a terrific addition to the Looper's Delight site would be a collection of just such diagrams; looping flowcharts are at least as pertinent to loop technique as any details about loop devices themselves, IMO. What do you think, Kim? Or whomever could set up such a thing? I'm not quite web-invested enough to even keep my own site in motion, so I don't volunteer, but if anyone wants to swap block diagrams of their current loop layouts, I have my own (quite the poor cousin of DPC's--his gives me heavy G.A.S.) in Illustrator, and I can save/send as GIF, JPEG, or whatever. One of the things I'll have to get around to putting at my site.... David Myers ><< I am interested in the thread regarding signal path/ > gear setup- >> > >so am i.......i think this would be most helpfull..........michael