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Yeah... the SWANS where a great band. I haven't listened to them in years but I'm gonna go home and dig out some of their records and give'm a listen. Thanks for the reminder. -jack Jeff McLeod wrote: Hi, all... I just wanted to mention something great that I've just this month run across. For a long, long time I've been familiar with the band Swans. But's it's only been recently that I have picked up some of their recordings. I had to write to the list to let anyone who's interested in incredible, emotional, frightening music know about them. There's plenty of looping going on--even on the earliest recordings from the beginning of the 80s. I cannot stress to everyone how wonderful and amazing this music is. I would also recommend any of the recent work by Swans leader Michael Gira. Two great Swans-related recordings, just to give you a couple, are: Soundtracks For The Blind and Michael Gira's Drainland recording. Here's a link to the band's website, for anyone who might like to find out more about them: