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Interesting- when I get a chance to play with drummers, I find it hard to loop. Maybe it is not because a drummer has trouble syncing to the loop when they're used to being the timekeeper (although that may be the case), but I find when someone is banging on very loud things, it is difficult to hear the loop without a REALLY loud monitor. So usually, unless it is, say, one hand percussionist, I will just play 'normal' guitar. Also, while I use a ton of effects/guitar synth stuff with my looping, when I play 'normal' guitar, I just use a cord into the amp, and that's it. Odd, I guess. Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/dave > "When do you make a choice NOT to loop?" >