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I will echo (Heh,heh) Mark's comments on the lack of women in the looping community. I tried to get this going as a thread a while back, but no one else "wove". I'm very glad to see the discussion kindle now. I am again threatining to gig again, and those two or three of you who remember my gigs back in the late 80's may recall an equal representation of genders then. I believe the spacey, ambient looping style is particularly "feminine" while the hard sampling and non-pitch/noise styles are more "masculine". One may expect to cultivate appropriate audiences for each style. The whole concept of "using tools", though, is a gender-charged one. The (perhaps overly Freudian but still still resonant with me) explanation I received is: Males have external genetalia, females have it inside. This manifests itself in a masculine propensity to manipulate external things and a feminine propensity to look inwards. I received that from a woman, by the way. Props to Tim Nelson for posting the Pauline Oliveros web site! I have a memory of watching/hearing a woman on television who used an EH 16-second delay to do massive improvised vocal stuff. This would have been around 85 or so. Any ideas who she was? Douglas Baldwin, Alpha male Coyote, the Trickster dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us Mark Sottilaro wrote: >I know we've been through this before, but with a role model like >Laurie, why do we >find so few women interested in working with new tools (such as loopers) >in Music? >Are there still women on this list? There were some time back, but I >left the list for a while and have seemingly come back to a "boys" >club. Bizarrely enough, I always >thought that our beloved loop leader Kim was a woman, until I met him. >When you >assume... and so the web degenders us. But still the question as to >why most >women (I've met) seem to avoid music that's off the "beaten trail." The >women that >I do know that are interested in new modes of aural expression, seem to >be as in >the dark as myself. > >Perhaps I only wonder this, as my date drifted into deep sleep during >the >performance. Ha! >