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actually, ive been trying to loosen up in my old age...........:)............kim, i am aware that many of the folks on the list know their way around the innards of their equipment and i do enjoy reading the many posts about things that i have no understanding of (in hopes of learning).........and yes, i am aware that there are service centers for equipment problems...........i guess my question was, how much tinkering with the unit will effect the warranty (for us faint of heart)...........also, i am sorry for thinking the "edp" would be new and improved, ive no idea where i got that from, perhaps in a dream................."back to my meds" michael