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"b.knox" wrote: > > > guitar/whatever -------> "guitar" "amp" --------> mixer > A > ps5 | > | > send return <------ | > | | | > | | | > | | | > V | | > input output ----> splitter box > > delay better is: 1 guitar/whatever -------> "guitar" "amp" --------> mixer A psm5 | 2 | send return | | A | | | | | | | V | | splitter ---> input output delay with no direct signal in the delay. that way input "1" into the mixer is always the guitar/whatever and input "2" is always the delay .. and it's a PSM5 by the way not a PS5... because its a Boss pedal that turns out to be useful they probably don't make them anymore. i think they make a "line selector" pedal that does the same sort of thing. Mathias Grob wrote: > Some of the last posts about t.c. and such leave the impression that any > delay is a looper as long as it has enough delay time (and is stereo?!). > But a delay unit repeats all the time! > > "selective overdub" is certainly a characteristic of a looper, but not >the > only one... > > ---> what turns a delay into a loop unit? ... true infinite repeat has be there for a start too.. i think selective overdub for me is the number one characteristic of a looper though... it turns the delayed material into something "seperate" that can be added to... and goes a long way towards making it an "instrument" rather than an "effect" ... after all, the musician has to choose what to overdub. being able to set the loop/delay length on the fly with a phrase would come in a close second for me .. sometimes it doesn't matter as much if rhythm/tempo aren't a concern. guess you must have more rhythm than me Mathias :) so is a looper just a (long) tap-tempo true 100% feedback delay with selective overdub? don't you need MIDI in there somewhere as well? :P