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At 09:40 AM 11/26/99 -0500, you wrote: >At 03:11 AM 11/26/99 -0200, you wrote: > >>>technology must always be a servant to music and creativity, not the >other >>>way around. > >How could it be otherwise? Not being a smartass here. Please explain. > I think part of what Javier and others have been getting at is the danger of being lazy and using "out of the box" presets (and/or patches, beats, tired overused samples, second-hand ideas, etc.) rather than making the effort to be a bit more original. While technology has obviously made many great things possible musically, it has also made it very easy to be mundane. Of course, this has always been true and doesn't apply only to high-tech; it's always been up to the musician to make the best use of the equipment on hand, and it's always been possible to run out and buy the finest instrument in the world and still not bother to learn more than three chords. It's just that lack of originality and poor musicianship can be harder to hide on a more conventional instrument. New tools (like the current bunch of "grooveboxes" out there, or the swiss-army multi-fx boxes) make it easier than ever to sound competent, and as such are a target for the backlash from schooled musicians who've worked hard to hone their skills. But the very features which make it easier to sound competent often make it more of a challenge to allow one's own musical identity and ideas to show through and characterize the piece, and every overplayed hit on the radio that fails this challenge adds weight to the "technology equals lack of musicianship" stereotype. It's a lot like the old arguments when sampling became popular: there's a big difference between lifting a whole idea/line/motif to use in your piece and using a sample in a new, creative way. Just because the Vanilla Ices and MC Hammers of the world may have ripped off old Rick James or Queen basslines or James Brown fills doesn't necessarily invalidate the whole idea of sampling, but there's no getting around the fact that such things invite criticism and leave those who want to use the technology in an original and creative way to fight the flak flung by "purists". So, in this light, music and creativity become a servant to technology and effects a crutch when the amount of thought, effort and originality are minimal. It's not the same as saying that the technology is inherently bad, because we all know it's not, especially when we consider the gearlust most of us on this list suffer from! We just have to be careful not to abuse it. Tim