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perhaps, im not wise.......but i find reading the posts on the list, both on and off topic to be a nice enjoyable respite from practice, in fact yesterday, i came to the realization that i spend a considerable amount of time reading these missives in total silence with no music what-so-ever.......and i wondered why........what i think i came up with is the fact that i play so much and listen so hard that i need a break, music is becoming like "work" to me, it almost occupies my every moment (this is good, i think), but if all we talked about here was the inner workings of the edp, the wonders of the jam-man, the glory of the rang and God help me, midi-capability, i think i would go nuts...........yes, we do at times get carried away with silly stuff but i feel that we are self-policing enough not to get too out of hand and we have the ever watchfull kim to keep us in line.........also, the delete button is only one click away........i hate to say it, but in my "real" life there are not any "loopers" i can go to the pub with and the wit and goofy ideas sometimes expressed here are most welcome to me.........just tell me to shut-up and i will...........:)......michael