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Re: peep sync, as opposed to MIDI-or-other-protocol-based slavery -- sometimes hominids looping simultaneous-like, unlinked but for affinity and proximity, works phenomenally well, and sometimes you jes' have to start over. Isn't that one of the coolest things about looping -- if at first, &c? In my early-90's loop ensemble, Vorticists, we took it as a given that we were going to engage wholly farkatke (Yiddish for "unwieldy") ratios of loops alongside loops and did we ever bring the m*&@#$f(@($+! ruckus, in lieu of locked start points. If I were playing MIDI sequences live, this sort of linkability would be more crucial than my standard M.O. of looping (seemingly) endless renditions of my transcription of "Eruption" for cor anglais and kick drum. But, you know, that's me... Now, please to be digging Gibson public relations' reply (finally) to my "whither Echoplex" post at their online forum. You will undoubtedly recall that, when we last left our hero product, the Trace Elliot division of Gibson had taken over its manufacture. When might there be a production date? Here's the reply: "Subject: Re: Echoplex? Topic: Guitar Questions Author: Relations@gibson.com Date: 11/26/99 18:46:44 Trace Elliot has informed me that they hope to have the new Echoplex out by the first of the year. They have been working very hard to source quality parts, and to make this version completely bug free. Believe, we're all exremely anxious to make the Echoplex available once again, and TE is busting their you-know-whats to get it out. However, they want to make sure it is going to be a top quality product, and they don't want to rush out something inferior just to get it on the market. We do appreciate everyone's patience, and everyone's eagerness to be able once again to have them on the market. cma" Hoo hah, he enthused. Anyone know anything more on this? _________________________________________________________________ ~ > --- James Keepnews --- < "Don't quote anybody, Sir!" (.-.) > -- Multimedia Yahoo -- < \ * -- Krishnamurti - > - keepnews@node.net - < _________________________________________________________________