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> has anybody modified a regular home tape deck(with simul record/play > feature)to allow for really long delay times(no layering, as in > frippetronics > stuff) Karlheinz Stockhausen did this swap the heads round, from erase>rec>pb to pb>erase>rec then record on a tape loop. Andy Butler Lexicon Vortex Database http://members.aol.com/soundfnr/vortex.htm