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I like gigantic reverb presets with no dry out, and no initial reflections, set really long and really low, for the same effect. It picks up the general tone of whats been played in, but so quiet that you can only hear it when the instrument cuts out. -----Original Message----- From: the Reverend Rob [mailto:reverendrob@realm-of-shade.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 1:15 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: reeeeaalyy lon echooo At 08:39 AM 12/1/99 -0800, mark givens wrote: > even if not what is the use of an echo that >is longer than say 30 seconds. One of my favorite loop toys while it lasted was an old absolutely trashed EP-3 with the record head fried; I'd turn it on at the beginning of a show and let it roll, and after about 20 minutes it degenerated into brilliant white noise with a semblance of character. This was with the stock 3 minute tape cartridge, ad I absolutely loved the thing. The big use for massive delay length is for "non-standard" music, although I'm there are a few people who would argue otherwise. :) >Im just trying to get my head around that kind >of echo. Get yourself an old answering machine loop tape; they're usually about 15-30 sec depending on manufacturer. Record on it. Hit play. Start wanking with your instrument(s) of choice. Don't try to get your head around it at first; just let your fingers do it. >I notice mst people on this list play guitar through phrase >samplers . I run EVERYTHING through my rack, be it vocals, guitar, gods know what, cable taps, childrens toys et al. >I use a keyboard in hip hop style so guess theres some kinf\d >of u2 like use for this. Far more than U2-like use; one of my favorite toys is my RDS 3.6 set at 3600 ms with the sweep filters on. == the Reverend Rob ICQ: 1280871 http://www.realm-of-shade.com/music