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I think you may have hit the nail there- so when it is in bypass it sends signal through but with no effect- so you hear the channel signal plus the dry signal from the aux- grrr- my old ass Yamaha mixer has these little dials everywhere- not a push button in sight- even if there were though I'd have to reach over and push it- man- its like I need a mixer BEFORE I even get to my rack and then one after the rack- jeeze- I was looking at Behringer mixers too- lots of bang for the buck there- http://www.behringer.de/eng/default.htm Cliff PS- ot- any pc users who have seen the error "Windows Protection Error" on boot please msg me off list- I removed a partition and now I can't boot reg- safe mode works but I have tried everything- no autoexec, no config, complete scan, sys file check- I read the boot log but saw nothing suspicious- thx- -----Original Message----- From: Mike Biffle <mbiffle@svg.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>; mark@grape.no <mark@grape.no> Date: Monday, December 06, 1999 9:27 AM Subject: Re: Vortex sounds "bottled" when bypassed- ot? >I've noticed the mention of putting the unit in bypass... If it's on >an aux send it's doubling your signal if it's in bypass. To kill the >Vortex and avoid the doubling you'll have to turn either the Vortex >return channel down or the aux send it's on. Bypass won't help you >here. You can get great full stereo use of a Vortex on the Alt 3/4 >buss included on most Mackie mixers. That way you can just punch the >button and send it off to the Vortex. If you return the Vortex to a >channel strip you can then use aux buss processing to further mess >with it or loop it. > >-Miko > >>>> mark <mark@grape.no> 12/06 2:00 AM >>> >I think I have this problem too, when I plug directly in to the >vortex, No Probs...however >it appears "out of phase" when on the AUX sends. > >...so how do I make it "In Phase?"...please? > > >MArk Red > >jpw77@together.net wrote: > >> Sounds like the Vortex is being put out of phase somewhere in your >setup. Could be >> cables (swap 'em and see),another device inline with the Vortex,or >your mixer. If >> you're bringing it back into dedicated efx returns try two normal >channels on the >> board-on some mixers efx returns are (inexplicably) out of phase ( >maybe to >> counteract the fact that the outputs of some budget efx boxes are >out of phase). This >> means your wet signal from the Vortex is out too, and should sound >a lot better if you >> track this down. >> >> Jon Williams > >-- >"In vodka Veritas" > >