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Yeah, Tim, that's right on, and they're relatively cheap. Lark in the Morning sells them for $175.00. I recently bought one elsewhere(in fact, I have a gig tonight w/ a traditional Persian group where I'll use it), and so far have keep it tuned like I tune my oud (C-G-A-D-G-C) so I don't have to think about more fingering positions (I also play saz and guitar on the gig). They're indeed bloody loud and cut right thru any other clatter. And they're fun to record w/ as well --- David Burk