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Hey loopers, They are a bit hard to find, but the Boss PN-2 Tremelo/Pan gets a strong on/off sound as well, with variable depth and speed control.(it can go reaaaaaally sloooow) I have had mine for about 8 years now and i'm dreading when it's just gonna get up and die. Although the Modulation Modeler coming from Line6 is supposed to have a modeled tremelo in it...We shall see... later, rich At 09:08 PM 12/20/99 EST, you wrote: >In a message dated 99-12-20 16:58:00 EST, you write: > ><< > ** you could check out the fulltone supatrem. it has both hard and soft > waves (i guess square and saw?). the hard gets a pretty cool gating >sound . > . . and you can mix the effect versus straight signal. > >> >The Fulltone does get that sound. I use a Dunlop Tremolo, it has a knob >to >adjust from soft to hard wave shape. I had to tweak an internal trim pot >or >two to bunp the effects output a bit, though, as it had a slight dip in >signal. The Fulltone actually uses a 1 dB boost when engaged and it >really >helps cut through. > >When I saw Peter Buck a couple of years ago he was using the Diaz >Tremodillo >pedal, sometimes using a pretty hard chop. It's possible that is also what he >used in that recording. > >I found the used Dunlop for $70, so after making the tweak I was very >happy. >I think people dump them because they are to quiet when engaged. But some >careful tweaking will make it better than most others. Gets a full off-on >chop if you want. Also does stereo panning and will pass a stereo signal >through bypass or effect with or without pan. Versatile yet simple to use. > >eric p >echo park > >