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Arleta is down here in So. Cal. It's in the San Fernando Valley and I believe that technically it is officially part of the city of Los Angeles, though it is perhaps 20-25 minutes from downtown L.A. It's not nearly as beautiful as Papa Dave's neck o' the woods but California in general is fantastic - I'm originally from PA. Don't know much about the Arleta neighborhood in particular but the Valley is very family-oriented and your Guatemalan daughters should have little if no trouble assimilating into the multi-cultutral social make-up. The area is mostly Latino and there are plenty of folks here from So. America including children. One downside is this confluence of cultures can produce a non-typical-American aesthetic - litter, less orderly appearance of homes and yards and cars, etc. - basically more like life in poorer Southern Hemisphere countries. But all that is merely appearances. There's quite a few of us L.A. loopers here on the list, and it seems that we're gaining some new clubs that encourage experimental and/or ambient and/or improvised live music. Most notably the famed Knitting Factory (from NYC) is setting up shop in Hollywood (about 15 min from Arleta) and should be up and running this Spring. Also a few smaller clubs and some coffee joints where you can just show up with a loop rig and do your thing. I became a performing musician only after coming to L.A. 12 years ago (started playing in '92) and this is due to the kind, wonderful, capable players who I met and learned from and were encouraged by. There is plenty of lousy stuff being made and displayed in L.A. (so many want to be something they're not), and it can be hard to avoid, but after maybe two years you learn to filter or not be bothered with that stuff, and you can dig very deep into the interesting things that are happening - and there's just about something for everyone, and if there isn't there seems to be the resources to start something. It just takes discipline to drive past these cool music shops without pulling over and busting out the credit card... OK that's enough for the list... Please email me privately and we can talk some more. Good luck and maybe we'll see you soon? I'll be in the grand canyon until the 28th so no email for a while... eric p echo park In a message dated 12/23/99 12:12:46 PM, moorelab@hotmail.com writes: >i may be relocating to (near) arleta, ca from cincinnati, oh. being a >midwest native, i am absolutely clueless about ca. anyone know anything >about the area? decent area to live w/family? (fwiw, i have a wife and >two >adopted guatemalan daughters) places for live music? etc? any info at all >greatly appreciated! thanks and happy holidays! >tony