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Re: Acoustic guitar looping and feedback problems



 i have found the sunrise pickup to offer the flexibility's i need for
performance. i run my acoustics through the j-150 amp from the sunrise 
with no
pre amp between the amp and guitar. the level is lower this way going in 
allowing
what i feel to be a more earthy tone. i use many 'electric' effects and 
tweak the
gates from room to room just enough to hold down the fort of feedback. 
even in a
true form, no fx's, the sunrise works well to increase volume with limited
feedback problems. the magnetically wound sunrise gives me the less brassy 
more
versatile application that i need and can't find in piezo pickups. i used 
to run
my sunrise in stereo with a highlander piezo via the pendulum sps pre amp 
but
ended up dialling in more and more of the sunrise until i all but used the
highlander. i have choosen to cut in half the feedback cover and place 
beside the
sunrise in the middle. i do not fill my guitars insides with anything. i 
like the
air to move some. the sound of pickups can be very subjective. find what 
works
for you as best from go and then work from there. even if i did not process
sounds like i currently do and took a more pure approach i'd still opt the
sunrise over any piezo pick up on market. as for end pin jacks, 
!@@#!#!!!#@! they
don't make em like i need em! i found a jack that takes abuse and needs no
constant tightening show to show, the al parts gold screw in switch craft 
with no
washers. from al parts. part number, ep 4602, it screws right in very 
tight with
a quarter or screwdriver from the outside and seems to hold a very solid
connection. time will tell if it lasts or for how long. i have also used 
the sans
amp acoustic direct box and like it plenty. i use it when i go into most 
other
sources of pa ect. to give me a bit more control. with the johnson it is
unnecessary. i have gone back and forth with many different pre amps and 
will
solicit more advise if you request. as for combos you will sound like they 
sound.
if you find one you really like then you have scored. they can make for a 
nice
moniter addition for your ears on stage. i have owned a few traces and 
played
stints on almost all other models available, crate, ca blonde, roland,  
marshall,
fender sonic, ect. before my johnson amp i had about 400 pounds of separate
components creating my sound. ultimately from the haffler power amps to 
the bag
end speakers. this has been replaced with 72 pounds of millennium. i am 
very
pleased with the johnson and do not understand why they don't market it 
more as
an acoustic / electric amp. the vintage 30 12's inside are more guitar 
oriented
speakers than the bag ends allowing more punch per note.

i like anet's optimism below. piezo's are not for me today.

good luck and happy holidays

jimmy george
www.jimmygeorgearts.com


ANET@aol.com wrote:

> Old Thread I know, but I am only an Acoustic Player and wanted to join in
> conversation.
>
> Martin thinline Piezoelectric installed in the bridge does the trick.  No
> need for soundhole covers, and feedback is virtually eliminated even at 
>loud
> volumes.
>
> Ok, so the argument goes, the piezo sound is not natural acoustic sound.
> While this maybe true from a recording studio perspective, I have never 
>once
> had anyone tell
> me in a live performance that the sound was crappy. Quite the contrary, 
>many
> have
> complemented me on the sound.
>
> Yes, the piezo seems to magnify the higher ends.  Agreed!  This effect is
> completely
> compensated for with a good pre-amp.  What preamp?  Crate Acoustic amps 
>are
> unmatched for production line acoustic amps and they make a great rack 
>mount
> preamp as well.  With the Crate amps (in particular the 125-D or rack 
>mount
> equivalent), you can go from extreme bass to extreme treble.  It has 
>three
> preamp
> filters (bass, mid, and treble) with a 10 band eq for output.  The line 
>out
> allows for
> direct connection into the house PA, which will allow you to crank your 
>sound
> to
> any drum-level necessary.
>
> So, forget the sound hole covers, buy a piezo - $90 - $120 (Martin 
>thinline).
>  Then get a good preamp.  Say good bye to feedback forever.