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>What we are doing is quite different. We are toying with mostly >uncompressed and >more suttle sounds in a much wider range, including many low level sounds. (Think >of decayng audio!). These suttle low-level sounds only use a few bits >(say 4 or 5) >to encode the sample. Ever heared an old 8-bit sampler? Well, this is >worse. >Try it. Take a continous sound, feed it through the plex at a very low >level, crank >up the volume and enjoy the low bit rate noise. Sounds like a good experiment. I'll try it this week-end. I have two 'plexes and I'm particularly interested in seeing if they behave the same. But before I do, I'll shoot my mouth off :) What I suspect you're hearing is the noisegate opening and closing sporadically on the 'plex. I've ran into this "feature" when I've tried to loop sounds that come-up from inaudibility to a decent level and return to inaudibility. I hear the gate snap-open and snap-shut rather than a smooth transition from/to inaudibility. Not the effect I was after. Now the gate is required for the UNDO feature but it would be nice to defeat it sometimes, when you know you not going to UNDO. (Kim?) A signal that is only 4 or 5 bits in magnitude is REAL quiet. Perhaps I need to find less rowdy places to play or a more polite audience? :) Kind of a new definition for a "two bit place"? Good discussion. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com