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>Dennis, saw the site. Can I do realtime looping with Kyma? And can you >give >me a price estimate? The quick answers (opinions not included): Yes, you can do realtime looping with Kyma. $3,300 for a basic unit (4 analog inputs/outputs, 4 digital inputs/outputs, 4 DSPs, one interface) The longer answers (opinions included): For me, the great appeal of the Kyma is its flexibility. You can pretty much do ANYTHING with it. You construct "Sounds" out of prototype modules supplied by Symbolic Sounds and others. The Sounds do things like DelayWithFeedback, filtering, mixing, etc. The trade-off is that it does very little (especially regarding looping) out of the box. You have to do quite a bit of set-up. Now Symbolic Sound gives a lot of examples that you can plagerize. One of the examples is a "tap-tempo" and it works quite well. You tap a MIDI key to begin the loop and tap a second key to close the loop. Unfortunately, you can't "overdub" more sound into the loop that is produced. At least with the example given. You can loop more sound by creating more "tap-tempo" Sounds but that's not the same as overdubbing. In the words of the Rev. Kim Flint: "At the minimum, a Real-Time Looper must be able to sample audio and loop it on the fly, and allow the user to sample new material while the current loop is playing. Usually they do much more." Amen. What I dream of doing is creating a "Looper" prototype sound for Kyma. I want the Looper to use the same basic interface of an EDP, i.e., buttons for RECORD, OVERDUB, MULTIPLY, INSERT, MUTE, UNDO, and NEXTLOOP. Personally, I think the EDP's interface is fantastic. It's so easy to improvise with it. I'm finding that Kyma has quite a steep learning curve so my project might take awhile. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com