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this must be parallel ideation at work again.. damn them mayans.. i am currently spec-ing a platform for a real-time opensource performance oriented loop tool... looking at maxmsp, beos, and linux... among the features would be the ability to visually arrange the loop fragments as they are entered, and to transition between scenes gradually-- fade this snip in over n bars, for example.. with a performance-oriented user interface... backwards-- the idea extends the basic delay line to a more acid-like concept where you have fragments which together form the piece.. the fragments all loop, are all synced together and with midiclock. fragments could initially be tapped in. one thing id like to work on is having switching between multiple outputs-- so that you could potentially build sections of the piece in your own private headphone mix and then fade them in to a mainmix, or blast them in.. multiple synced musicians working together could coordinate pieces and work on different substructures within the soundspace simultaneously. of course, its just a lofty dream. but manifestation is inevitable when we see the illusion of rhythm. btw if anyone is interested in collaborating, pls let me know. im doing a little work for David Z. of Cycling74 and trying to hook into CNMAT in Berkeley so that the resource pool builds.. The MAXMSP people had this idea awhile ago and toyed with it. in lakech -jan -----Original Message----- From: eric <eobertha@inreach.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> Cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> Date: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 9:13 PM Subject: looper-friendly MIDI sequencer? >howdy. >I use MOTU's Performer (not DP) - a not-so-aptly-named piece of software >IMHO. Interested in actually performing with malleable MIDI situations, >I have found that a simple act such as vamping on a particular measure >of a sequence and then continuing on to an another vamp on down the line >a bit is possible (with Perf.) but akward. The memory loop points are >designed (as is the Polar function in DP) more for creating than >performing. So I am frustrated. > >Here is an example of a software user interface that would turn me on: >little whirlpools dot the screen - representing loops; lines are drawn >between many of the spirals - representing transitions. The idea is >simple: click a spiral and you loop, click a line between that spiral >and any other and at the next loop end (like a drum machine (a feature >sorely lacking in Performer)) the music follows a precomposed transition >to another loop pool. The system could work for a single song or an >entire reperetoire. > >Has anyone seen or heard anything about anything even remotely like >this? >Is this doable in MAX? Anyone interested in designing some software? > >carry on, >eric o. >