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Both of them are great, but I definitely agree with that Fripp is only using a marginal portion of his resources. And he sure could explore it some more. As with most guitarloopers, I find these constant FADING IN AND OUT OF NOTES, quite tedious after a while. It would be more interesting if they'd loop a guitar with a sharp pick attack and build a rhythmically complex web of notes instead, not to talk of a probable KEY CHANGE all of a sudden, to make things happening. I have one Fripp Cd "Blessing of tears" that is extremely beautiful. The old ones on vinyl (the 70's and 80's stuff). But I think the rest tend to sound the same. Is that why there arent THAT many players who indulge in looping? It tends to sound the same no matter who it is. Torn is definitely a favorite, and gets more mileage...but who cares? It's the end result that counts...what it soudns like in the end. Between those two, it's a tie. regards /Mats -----Original Message----- From: Peter Shindler [mailto:shindler@mediaone.net] Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 4:53 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: torn vs. fripp Whoa, a debate about the two mack-daddies of looped guitar?! This could get ugly! For my part, I wuv 'em both and consider them among my favorites. However, if pressed, I'd have to admit that I wish Fripp used his equipment a bit more resourcefully; I mean, with all the effects and synth modules he uses, why does he resort to that Mellotron-ish synthy sound 90% of the time, ignoring all the other timbral possibilities available to him? (probable answer: because he likes it) I think Torn gets more sonic mileage out of his equipment, especially considering that he's not going the synth route, but his pieces often lack the slow-burning, gradually-climaxing tension that Fripp is so great at manipulating. As a final aside, Torn's much more fun to watch during a performance. Peter PS My Boss GT-3 arrived in the mail yesterday. God, what a piece of machinery! This thing is going to keep me busy for years... ----- Original Message ----- From: Aaron Schindler <aaron_sorghum@yahoo.com> To: looper list <loopers-delight@annihilist.com> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 8:57 PM Subject: torn vs. fripp > which do you enjoy more,the ambient/soundscape/looping > music of David Torn or Robert Fripp? And Why? > > - A > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com >