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RE: torn vs. fripp

Both of them are great, but I definitely agree with
that Fripp is only using a marginal portion of his resources.
And he sure could explore it some more.

As with most guitarloopers, I find these constant FADING IN AND OUT OF 
NOTES, quite
tedious after a while. It would be more interesting if they'd loop a guitar
with a sharp pick attack and build a rhythmically complex web of notes 
not to talk of a probable KEY CHANGE all of a sudden, to make things 

I have one Fripp Cd "Blessing of tears" that is extremely beautiful. The 
old ones on vinyl (the 70's
and 80's stuff). But I think the rest tend to sound the same. Is that why 
there arent THAT many players who indulge
in looping? It tends to sound the same no matter who it is.

Torn is definitely a favorite, and gets more mileage...but who cares?
It's the end result that counts...what it soudns like in the end.
Between those two, it's a tie.

regards /Mats

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Shindler [mailto:shindler@mediaone.net]
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 4:53 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: torn vs. fripp

Whoa, a debate about the two mack-daddies of looped guitar?!  This could 

For my part, I wuv 'em both and consider them among my favorites.

However, if pressed, I'd have to admit that I wish Fripp used his equipment
a bit more resourcefully; I mean, with all the effects and synth modules he
uses, why does he resort to that Mellotron-ish synthy sound 90% of the 
ignoring all the other timbral possibilities available to him?  (probable
answer:  because he likes it)  I think Torn gets more sonic mileage out of
his equipment, especially considering that he's not going the synth route,
but his pieces often lack the slow-burning, gradually-climaxing tension 
Fripp is so great at manipulating.

As a final aside, Torn's much more fun to watch during a performance.


PS  My Boss GT-3 arrived in the mail yesterday.  God, what a piece of
machinery!  This thing is going to keep me busy for years...

----- Original Message -----
From: Aaron Schindler <aaron_sorghum@yahoo.com>
To: looper list <loopers-delight@annihilist.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 8:57 PM
Subject: torn vs. fripp

> which do you enjoy more,the ambient/soundscape/looping
> music of David Torn or Robert Fripp? And Why?
> - A
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