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How about the audio equivalent of an ESCHER painting? Ya know, those stairs, figures that is perspectively screwed so they go upstairs as well as downstairs(!) and left and right at the same time as they go round in a square building and so on...tricks the eye... Objects in a picture that ends nowhere, but yet, turn its back on itself! What about... Sonic Fractals? ...ok then... not for Joe Bob or Granny perhaps ...:-) /mats -----Original Message----- From: PJBMHB@aol.com [mailto:PJBMHB@aol.com] Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 3:05 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Describing looping to others my wife describes my looping as either, "pretty" or "ugly". not sure that helps. =-) PJ