Re: Discuss Amongst Yourselves....

["Larry Tremblay" <ltct@concentric.net>]

Dave -

Of course, nothing I said is untrue. I'm quite secure
about my rationalism, but not my height. ;-)

Mystics and religionists have been making fools of
themselves and killing each other off for centuries
in the name of their gods. They sure don't need any
help from us godless humanists.

Live and let live, I say, but don't let an untruth slip
by. Integrity requires it.

- Larry T

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Potter" <papadave55@hotmail.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: Discuss Amongst Yourselves....


> Being open to all ways of seeing things is the way to go for me.  Not
> judging someone elses experience and methods or religion and trying to
> invalidate it.  It only emphasizes you own insecurity.  You won't grow
> taller by chopping others heads off Larry.  Om and Out, Papa Dave
>
> >From: "Larry Tremblay" <ltct@concentric.net>
> >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
> >To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
> >Subject: Re: Discuss Amongst Yourselves....
> >Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:49:22 -0500
> >
> >Although I disagree with the specious New Age-y
> >comments here about the link between Quantum Physics
> >and neo-Mysticism , "Godel, Escher, Bach" is essential
> >reading, especially for loopists. Fortunately, it
> >predates the mushy New Agers who've co-opted bits of
> >it to support their myopic post-hippie delusions.
> >
> >On the subject of music and the vibratory energies set
> >into motion, Dane Rudyar's book "The Magic of Tone and
> >the Art of Music" came highly recommended by Glen Branca,
> >Philip Glass and Terry Riley.
> >
> >Ironically, I found Rudyar's book a good read despite
> >my own distaste for the mushy hybrid of Hindu irrationalism
> >and Astrology he's famous for. One quote that got my notice,
> >was
> >
> >   "A tone is a living cell... It has the power of
> >   reproduction, of making exchanges, of growing.
> >   It is a microcosom reflecting faithfully the macrocosm,
> >   its laws, its center. A tone is a solar system."
> >
> >This reminded me of Herman Helmholz's book "On the
> >Sensations of Tone" which was the first scientisfic
> >inquiry into the properties of sound - Helmoltz was
> >the first to *discover* the harmonic series and upper
> >partial structure of tone. Highly recommended.
> >
> >- Larry
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <johnmcc@aldiscon.ie>
> >To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 6:58 AM
> >Subject: Re: Discuss Amongst Yourselves....
> >
> >
> > >
> > > The New Scientist Article Ken mentions (
> > > http://www.newscientist.com/features/features.jsp?id=ns22273 ) is
> > > excellent. Worth checking out, especially if you've read "Godel,
Escher,
> > > Bach". Putting your brain through some strenuous mental excercise! I
> >think
> > > it was Neils Bohr who said "anyone who fails to be completely shocked
by
> > > quantum physics hasn't understood it".
> > >
> > > I have noticed that playing loops manually (just playing a phrase 
>over
> >and
> > > over again) can be quite an experience, and certainly a different one
to
> > > using a looping device. Sometimes, your fingers just take over, and
you
> >can
> > > hear the "loop" interacting with the rest of the music.
> > >
> > > I happen to have a Sheila Chandra CD with me today, so on this
subject,
> >I
> > > quote from the liner notes:
> > >
> > > "Sacred Stones: Somewhere all of us intuitively understand the links
> > > between ancient musics, that is, that drones and chanting are at the
> >root
> > > of all musics.
> > >
> > > The act of chanting is like throwing a stone into a lake - however
small
> > > the stone is, the ripples (vibration) it creates affect the whole
lake.
> >I
> > > believe that making sound can make you 'sound' (whole).
> > >
> > > Om Namaha Shiva: An ancient chant, a new melody. Shiva is the
destroyer
> >of
> > > ignorance. I find the 'clever' part of me wants the chant to 'go
> >somewhere'
> > > - instead I listen to the harmonics the chant creates, or just to its
> >frail
> > > simplicity ... One for all of you to join in with at home!"
> > >
> > >     [from the CD "Weaving my Ancestors' Voices" (RealWord CDRW 24 -
0777
> > > 86722 2 7) ]
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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