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> There is no clash between thought and feeling, any apparent > clash betwwen the two iis really a clash between two > contradicting ideas. So, if you have a feeling that seems > irrational, it's really your ideas that are irrational. Thanks Dan. I couldn't have said it better. Ayn Rand's philosophy has had a great influence on my own thinking, too. Her essay, "Art and Cognition" in her book "The Romantic Manifesto" is what led me to Helmholtz, and subsequently, a whole new world of music and aesthetics. - Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Koontz" <DanKoontz@webtv.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 6:52 AM Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V00 #73 > First of all, rationality and irrationality are mutually exclusive. You > either choose to validate your ideas (through a process of reason),and > be rational; or choose to follow whatever makes you feel good and is > conveniant. The senses (percepts) are valid, they are automatic > reactions to the external world. Your senses never lie, the error occurs > when a person takes percepts and forms incorrect (invalid) concepts. A > good example of this would be the illusion of the broken-stick in water. > The senses are totaly reliable in that they don't censor the light > coming to your eyes at different speeds. I you were to conclude that the > stick was really bent, that would be an error of thought (conceptual), > not yor senses (perceptual). Love is not an "irrational feeling". Love, > like all feelings or emotions are a value judgement formed by one's > ideas. All emotions derive from the content of one's mind. If you won a > million dollars, would you feel happy, or sad and dejected? You would > feel happy, because those million dollars would be of value to you. > There is no clash between thought and feeling, any apparent clash > betwwen the two iis really a clash between two contradicting ideas. So, > if you have a feeling that seems irrational, it's really your ideas that > are irrational. I strongly suggest you look into Objectivism, the > philosophy of Ayn Rand. > > Cheers, - Dan > >