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For those who are considering a good guitar preamp and effect, Digitech Artist 2120 is a good one, especially for those obsessed with delays and looping desires. It has up to 10 seconds of delay (caution: it's usually advertised with 5 sec, but it does have 10 in fact!) which can be controled in many ways through FC, so that looping with it is quite easy. It also has 5 second sampler, ready with overdub and other options. petr pepetr@crnet.net