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>...Yes, there is at least one other Kyma user on the list! Great to hear it, Vance! Your enthusiasm over Kyma is clear (and understood). When I bought my first EDP, it quickly "converted" me to the Looper Religion. Then I got the Kyma system and now I'm a Looper missionary. Now, I fear adding DSPs to my Kyma because I'd start preaching in the streets. I'd carry a sign saying, "The End is the Beginning..." What is your looping set-up like? And do you use your Kyma in live performance? I'm still building a new system. And probably will be for the next year as I'm not certain what hardware I need yet nor the bucks to get whatever it is I think I need. Currently, I have the Capybara "Lite" (Capybara-320 with four I/O channels, four DSPs and no expansion cards), two EDPs, a MOTU MIDI Express XT, an old 90Mhz laptop, and a Tascam 1024 mixer. There's a few other items in there like power amps and speakers, but you get the idea. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com