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Kinda off tangent and maybe & kinda sorta related but more self promotional...Temple of Bonmatin ( the other band i sling geetar for ) just got back from a west Coast Tour last week. We played at the "Crocodie" in SF and at "channel" one in san jose. bon matin also did a live radio broadcast from wkjc ...well i cant recall the stations exact name but its 89.1, i think... we were hosted by a great & Intense "noise-psychedelic-imporvised-jam band" called "Liquorball" who had great sounds and cool players and no MIDI time code... stuff like modular synths...the kind of synths u stik leads in and out of in a rack. there was also a dj making loopey noises and swooshes and lotsa loopey sweeps, a kickin english drummer and a guitar player named grady who was absolutely phenominal. The "crocodie" was a very cool place, very rock n toll looking but the crowd and the audiences were great. Liqourball also had a guy with them whom i was told was iggy pop's sax player from the fun house era. he wuz cookin too. and like an absent minded idiot, i forgot to mention to use " Looper " guyyys that we wuz comin out westward. Better late than never. But i reccomend all o' yall go ck out "Liquorball" if u live in The SF-BAy area in addition to all the other bay area talent there is to see and hear :) Warm Regards, JP/AKASH 215.592.9963 akashicphonelines "Remember to Always Kill your Expectations". Ck AKASH out on the web for pics, INFO & LINKS TO AKASH's music streamed in RA: http://hometown.aol.com/akashmusic/myhomepage/personal.html