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Congratulations Gareth! Yes! Kyma is the deepest I've seen. I'd live/eat/sleep with that manual for a good long while! I have some Sounds I've written for Kyma that I'd be pleased to send you. I want to polish them up a little first. Do you plan on using your system live or in-studio (or both)? Do you have an EDP? Several of my Sounds communicate between the Kyma and EDPs. I am hugely biased toward both EDPs and Kyma. IMHO, the EDP is first-rate regarding the user interface. I never realized how good it is until I tried looping purely on the Kyma. I found that I depended a lot on the EDP display to tell me what is happening. E.g., I press RECORD, then look at the EDP to confirm I'm really recording; likewise, with OVERDUB, MULTIPLY, etc. Also, I use the EDP time/sync display tell me where I am. On the other hand, the EDP is a closed system. It does what it does and ONLY what it does. So the EDP is great for building up loops, not so good for post-construction mangling. The Kyma is not so good for loop-construction, but fabulous for mangling. Even a basic Kyma system supports four channels. My solution is to view the EDPs as input devices to the Kyma system. I can use the EDP normally, building up a loop through whatever complexity I want. Then I can tap a switch and capture that loop into the Kyma. Optionally, after loop capture I can specify that the EDP should be muted, the current loop cleared, or all loops cleared. I intend to have a Kyma Sound to move a loop from Kyma into the EDP but I haven't written it yet. Not to say you can't loop purely in Kyma-land. It's just that I miss the nifty EDP interface/display. The combination works great! For example, I have Sounds that let me slave Kyma loops to the EDP. So the EDP acts as the master sync source with the Kyma loops synchronized to the EDP. I do this by using one EDP to build up my sync track, then I use the footswitch of my second EDP purely to control the Kyma (I'm shopping for a MIDI footswitch), creating the slave loops directly on the Kyma system. So I have four loops, the master from the EDP, and three slave loops. I have four speakers in a quad set-up with each loop in a different speaker. Then I have a "ClapDetector" (no, it's not a medical thing! it's a Kyma Sound of mine) control the quad panning. Each time I clap my hands (or hit my claves, etc), the sounds rotate. The faster I clap, the faster they rotate. Big time fun! Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com