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So does that mean you recommend it? :> bIz -----Original Message----- From: italo de angelis [mailto:italoop@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 3:51 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Eventide DSP4500 vs. Kyma >Hello, >Would you mind telling us more about your Orville please? >In Australia only top level studio's can justify Eventide as its too >expensive and has lower perceived second hand value compared to Lexicon >and >TC Electronic. >Before people talk about the reverb comparisons between Lex and Eventide >Lexicon PCM's have always been popular but around $6000 + pc cards too >expensive, TC Electronic is deemed to be offering more innovative >products >than Lexicon in the last couple of years. >Steven HI Steven! Well I never consider those issues regarding second hand price, just go for the real quality of the box and its creative power. We all know that Laxicon, TC & Eventide are the top guys in the business.I know most of their units, all the PCMs, LXPs and MPXs, 300 and 480, TC2290,M2000, M5000, M3000, G-Force, Fireworx, H3000s, DSP4000s etc. Regarding prices: Orville is the top Eventide unit and its list price in US is 5700$. Lexicon new 960L goes up to 15000$ and TC top System 6000 starts from 8700$...so as you see who is expensive??? There is a lot of misknowledge and confusion about this issue out there; one of the problems is that Eventide Audio is a small branch of a larger company, working in airplane navigation systems on computers, so they don't put all their resources into the audio part or into its ads and promotion. Nevertheless Eventide builds the most powerful and creative science toy available on earth, ORVILLE!!! This box can do things that other companies top products cannot EVEN DREAM of doing...Into Orville you get 2 powerful dsps, each one is like 4 Lexicon PCM80/81s or 4 Event. DSP4000s, just to give you an idea. Inside Orville you can allocate dsps power and audio memory building algorithms as you like, repeating structures, setting up 12, 8 or 6 VERY HIGH QUALITY stereo verbs that stand very well against Lexicon's. Plus you can build synths; you have the best pitch shifters around, including the new Ultrashifter that can recalculate the formants of any sound, avoiding that nasty Donald Duck or Giant voice artefacts common il ALL the others shifters on the market...you should hear it! Moreover you have a 3 minutes sampler with real time editing, time compression/expansion, shifting, looping and other features that you would find only on top brand models of EMU or AKAY. You can download the full manual at www.eventide.com together with thei cool freeware Vsig that allows anybody to program the unit on a PC, starting from a cheap & miserable 486!!! Now they have EVE/NET a remote controller for Orville and DSP7000, working with up to 4 units in a network! Who else goes so far??? What is really light years ahead is the simplicity of the concept behind Orville: it's a high quality software & hardware audio computer in which you can build anything you might ever need, so that you don't have to buy an XXX for verb, a YYY for pitch shifting, a ZZZ for quality delays, a KKK for dynamics and so on...this way it's much cheaper and worx better...no cables, no mixers. 8inputs/8outputs, half analog, half digital...every internal dsp has 4 ins/4outs...you can patch them any way you like, beyond all the ordinary mono, stereo, split, serial or parallel configurations...even internal loop structure is allowed...making up for absolutely new algos...fx are stellar, EQs are amazing...you can build 32 bands stereo graphic eqs or parametric eqs, great compressors, new things like harmonix extractors!!! 4.20 minutes of delay memory to loop your neck off... midiclock, taptempo, reverse delays and shifters w/32 sec. delay, totally customizable graphical analog interface with sliders, Vu-meters, pots, monitors and texts, triggers and even a relay to switch electric contacts on/off...like a mixer gooseneck lamp...nifty!? This unit allows the user to build anything, things like vocal synths or gtr synths are only HERE...post production fx, noises, ambients are only here, thanxs to oscillators and white noise generators...low-fi and audio mangling can be as BAD as you like...a real bastard!!! Hi-FI...well no use to talk about this..it's Eventide. Don't worry about second hand prices...you'll never sell a box like this...it will grow on you and be kept updated from many years to caome by the factory; they still make H3000 from the 80s!!! Who else does it? My PCM80 lasted for about 2 years...Jamman?...Vortex?...Orville is Quadraphonic...have you ever heard a real Quad verb? An audio source panning in a Quad mixer? Missing some joys of life...get the manuals...read them...save your pennies and the market will NOT bother you for a long long long time ahead...cheaper and better than the others...you'll agree. www.eventide.com/oupdate is a site to download the latest software for Orville and fot users' presets exchange...again...who else does this??? NOHOPE...frankly...ciao ITALO ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com