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Thanks for the responses. I just realized however that my subject line should have been "woe is me". Oh well, I guess if I ever get around to using the stuff I've asked about it may really become "Whoa is Me". I have to unsubscribe for a few weeks (yes, I even know how to do it myself :-) so any more messages about the subject you might feel like sending should go to me personally (I won't see them on the list). This list is a fantastic resource and generally a great place to 'be'. see you in a few weeks Kevin Kim Flint wrote: > At 5:51 PM -0700 8/19/00, Kevin wrote: > >Actually, while I'm at it, if anyone has any info on any other > >environmental control systems (voice recognition, motion sensors, > >temperature responsive tone generators, etc.) I would be very > >grateful. > > check this month's Electronic Musician. there's a long article on that > subject, covering a large number of different alternate controllers. > > kim