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And to confuse the issue even more, I found several examples of folks using Max _and_ Kyma, though typically they ran them on separate machines (e.g. one Powerbook to act as the Kyma interface, the other to run Max). Though, I didn't find any examples of folks using Kyma and Max _with MSP all at the same time_. Paolo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Pask" <andrew@kaleidacousticon.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 7:29 PM Subject: Re: Kyma/max > > If I had the time and money I'd get both. > Both are deep apps with strengths and weaknesses. > I got Max/Msp not knowing about about Kyma. > > I think at's also valuable to consider support. > Get on all the mailing lists and check out the communities which have >grown > up around each app.Are they cool for newbies?Is the "parent" company > actively involved?Do they have a good rep for helping out their clients? > > Get demos and try some things out. > > Two things I will say for Max/Msp (not really knowing Kyma from a hole in > the road): > > -It happily uses most other good quality I/O hardware without fear of > conflict, so you can have another major audio app using the same set up. > > -There are many people developing some amazing add ons, the NATO >image/video > processing package is right out there, blows Videolic away, and the > networking/cross platform/internet possibilties are getting more powerful > all the time. > > As seems to be the case, no one app will be the magic answer, the >solution > will be some arduously attained and usually uniquely personal setup. > > L8r > > Andrew > >