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Jon, I can't comment on Jan's (2nd hand) experiences with moving the mixer around. Apart from my first MX2642, which has resided immobile at home since I bought it, the second one has seen some moving around mounted in a rack. i didn't have any problems so far, but I only had it since July, and only played a few gigs with it, so this isn't really what you'd consider a lot of mobile experience... Adressing your questing re the Headrush. No, I haven't used the individual outputs, simply because I haven't a console that large. Of course, I could feed the four individual E1 outs into the Mackies mono inputs, reroute two of the stereo ins of the Behringer into the Mackie and connect the 1/2 and 3/4 outs of the Mackie into the Behringer - but then, I'd need another rack (which I need anyway sooner or later, the current crap takes up 16HU in my 20HU rack, and planning already in a 1HU aplifier (a really weird thing a friend of mine designed, blowing out 2x200 watts sinus in a 1HU case with 6mm thick casing, and delivering 162dB SNR...I'm currently trying to convince this dude to design a looping device) and the repeater, there's not that much place left) and then I'll get a 7-string fretless bass guitar, a 14-string Phalanx Warr guitar, a soprillo saxophone, a soprano sax with extension to low G and duodecime key...:-) ...but I mainly use the Headrush as a looper, not for the tape echo effects, but I sure think it might sound funny treating the four outputs with different effects (not to speak of using it with a surrund console - re "The Seasick Looper", as mentioned in the Looper's Delight Archive). I'm really curious for the Repeater. If it only offers half the functionality everyone here is hoping for, it will open up a new world for me. Syncing loops via MIDI (an important feat for me), having loops in non-volatile memory (up to 50 minutes per interchangeable memory card), four polyphonic loops. This might open up the way for some feats currently available only using several independent loopers or a sampler. I recently played a live looping rendition of J.S. Bach "Passacaglia c-Minor" for Organ (BWV 582), where I put the bass line into the headrush, then sampled remaining melody parts into the ESi, which I could then trigger and stop during the performance. Of course a slight problem was the "user interface" of the sampler, obviously not optimized for live real-time sampling, which forced me to start and stop any loop with open strings. I hope with the Repeater this will come of easier...time to dream. Coming back to your Vortex question: I still don't understand what you're trying to accomplish. Did I get it right that you want to route your entire mix (or most of it) into the vortex, then feed the vortex back into the mixer and send the mix plus vortex to the PA or tape? If you want to send everything through the vortex, then why don't you use the main inserts? Cheers, Rainer Rainer Straschill Moinlabs GFX and Soundworks www.moinlabs.de > Oops...I meant to say: "feed sub outs 1&2 into the Vortex, from the > Vortex outs into mixer inputs that are assigned to subgroups 3&4." > Basically, I can only really deal with two final outputs from > the mixer, > so I wanted to pump the Vortex mix back into the mixer so > that it could > be mixed with the non-Vortex mix to come out the main L and R > outputs. > Given the complexity of Rainer's setup, I think I'm only > scratching the > surface with my proposed use.