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lol, aren't you supposed to be working Mr. Atkinson? Slaving, not looping! (Insert snapping whip sound here) ;) Cliff -----Original Message----- From: rich <rich@nuvision.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Date: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 12:31 PM Subject: Re: not enough DL4 patches >Yes, good point, you can use the mix knob, and i do use an expression >pedal. But there have been threads on the list before about the dl4 >and its pedal implementation. it tends to be a pain in the ass, IMO. > >I have the expression pedal to control the 'mix' on all of my >presets, so your point is well taken and yes...."obvious". what if >i've got that cool multi-head sound and i'm tweaking it in real >time?...even though the expression pedal was set to control just the >mix, it's now gonna take into account those tweaks. so when i go to >move the pedal to turn the mix down, it's not going to be a smooth >fade out of my current tweak. it's going to mutate the sound back to >some prior configuration of the tweaking as well as fading it out. > >example. say you have the multi-head on a pretty fast delay time, >and you turn the feedback way up, so it's starting to self-oscillate. >then you slowly turn the speed down, really slow, so you get this >deconstructing downpitch thing. now you've got this noisy low rumble >happening and you want to turn it off or fade it out. Go ahead, use >the expression pedal, but that sound is now going to speed up as it >fades out, back to where the knobs were when you started. you would >pretty much have to get on your knees and adjust the mix manually, >which is what i do mostly when we're doing alot of live knob >twiddling. > >i am currently using the Line6 expression pedal, but used a Roland >EV5 prior. If you buy the line6, try to get it from a catalog. it's >usually cheaper than line6 sells it on their site (figure that one >out), and it won't take 6 weeks to arrive (like mine did). > >best, > >rich > > > > >>In the 'so obvious it might be useless' category of advice.... >> >>>regarding the dl4, changing delay models and tweaking leaves you >>>stuck unless you decide to 'save' that preset. say you're using the >>>digital delay, and you have that saved (and all of your other slots >>>have saved presets). now start with the digital delay, and say you >>>want to switch to the multi-head (but you don't have the multi-head >>>as a saved preset). so you just turn the model knob and go to the >>>multi-head. great, now ya start tweaking and you get something you >>>really like. now here comes a section where you have to turn the >>>delay off, but you don't want to save over any of your other presets. >>>no can do. once you turn that multi-head setting off, it's gone. >> >>You can just adjust the MIX knob all the way to dry and that >>MultiHead setting will still be there waiting for you won't it? And >>if you have an expression pedal set to adjust the mix, its a hands >>free fix. >> >>Would only work one setting at a time but still, its something. >> >>By the way, anyone know what other expression pedals work with the >>DL4? Supposedly you need a, what 10k pot (sorry if thats the wrong >>thingy), in your pedal and all of mine have 20's (as do the ones >>I've looked at on line). >> >> >>K >>_________________________________________________________________________ >>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. >> >>Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >>http://profiles.msn.com. >