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Well I must add--->:@) I was really blown away by them when I heard Miko Biffle use them at my studio where we recorded together and he seem to be able to have his vortex obey his every wicked command, it just about make you sea sick especially when I had my headphones on. Needless to say I went on line and bought two of them, one for 175.00 and the other 200.00 I tried several different paths but found you can not put em in line with everything because the bypass mode totally screws with the phase, and you also have to set the input very carefully cause they clip way too easy. But once you have it set there is really nothen like em that I know of. I put them on an aux send to a volume pedal and when you want your vortex you kick em in. A pre send switching in, is best so you get the full vortex sound. Also you definitely have to use an expression pedal to get the most out of em as well as to program faster. With two of them together I like to set the first one on 5 and the second one on 14 and morph around with 5 into 14. Also try 15 with heavy faux ring mod into 14 too! Cheer's --Ts