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I just got a line 6 DL-4 and for the money it's great, way, way better thean the Headrush (which I also have). The Akai does 22 secs (I think) but without o/dubbing. If you want to o/dub you're limited to 11 secs. The UI is clunky. The DL-4 does 14 secs full bandwidth but if you record at 1/2 speed you get 28 secs and you can still overdub. I also like the fact that you can record at 1/2 speed and backwards and combine forwards and backwards stuff. You also have a 800ms delay in front of the loop so you can delay stuff on the way in which when you reverse sounds great. You can attach a pedal to control the delay (not loop) functions for extra sonic mangling into the loop. For the money this is a great deal for the looper alone and the delays are cool too. Martin Shellard > From: Scott Winzinger <zing@sigecom.net> > The best I have found for the money and quality is the Line 6. > > > Zing > > > > RobbCappelletto@aol.com wrote: > >> the headrush has something like a 28.5 second looper, but it can only >layer >> 11 second loops >