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regarding Dennis Leas post about the cell phone experiment: What a great idea!!! Thanks for sharing it. Along similar lines, I have gotten pretty good at controlling the feedback from two toy walkie talkies, facing them at different angles while turning the mic on. I have one of those old red digitech whammy pedals that has a two octave up/down capability. In the two octave up mode, the sweep up is a continuous pitch. Consequently, I can play the feedback into the solo and once I land on a controllable pitch I can play the octave pedal like a 'fretless' feedback. It is not as precise as, say, a slide guitar solo (especially considering that I can't even play a chord on a guitar, being a percussionist at heart...............that's right, the drool comes out equally on both sides of my cheeks when the stage is level) but I find that if I slowly come up or down to pitch that I can get pretty cogent melodic solos..........more Eno than Malmsteen, of course. I used to do a similar trick by whistling into am RE 501 Chorus echo, getting it to feedback at a continuous volume and then playing the tape speed to change the pitch (wow, that dates me!!). BTW, did you just brazenly approach the cell phone people to ask them for the loan of the cell phones? Also, did you have the conference calling feature? That might increase the delay of your 'loop' Thanks for the creativity, Dennis! I get so inspired by Loopers Delight! Rick Walker (a.k.a. Loop.pooL)