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hi all, just out of curiosity... why do you folks want to do tape loops? i think i would get it if you already had experience with tape loops and splicing and such, and had access to the equipment. but if you're a total beginner to it, and don't have any equipment and such...what is the attraction to it from a creative point of view? i would be interested...especially since we make alot of noise on this list about User Interfaces and 'instant gratification' sort of subjects...like "why won't this machine think like i do, so i don't have to change the way i like to work". as a newbie to tape splicing and looping, it would seem that the learning curve would be pretty steep to 'get it right' and the potential to get bogged down in the 'process' of making tape loops could outweigh the creative output. i'm just imagining how long it would take me to create a tape loop that would yield the same results that my DL4 would give me in a matter of seconds. also, the methodology of tape looping isn't really 'original' at this point. people have struggled for years with the limitations of the technology. what drives you to do it yourself? i'm not slagging on your interest....far from it. i would just be interested in why you're attracted to it. the 'sound' of tape? the unexpected results based on the margin of error? the mechanics of building the loop? best, rich