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At 9:18 AM -0800 1/6/01, tapehiss wrote: > >My question to you is how have you been able to get it to pay for >itself? pay for itself?? hahahaha, that's funny. for a while I thought the various manufacturers who generate significant amounts of sales because of Looper's Delight might be interested in advertising here, but that was foolish. Clearly some of them would rather spend $thousands on full page ads in magazines that have smaller subscriber bases than LD while taking advantage of the LD list/website community for free publicity. I get some money from the other sites that pay for space on my server, a little bit from the guys who made the Looper's Delight CD's and share some of the profits with me, an occasional puny check from advertisements on the site, and once in a while a generous user will donate a bit of cash. None of that comes close to covering my costs to run Looper's Delight, so primarily LD is paid for out of my pocket. I expect that will eventually change someday, but it isn't happening very quickly. Admittedly I haven't put much effort into achieving that lately, as other things have taken over my time.... If anybody out there is currently feeling shamed into coughing up some cash, I'd be happy to sell some ad space for whatever it is you do. your ad will get plastered in front of gearhead musicians hundreds of thousands of times per month. your conscience will be clear. Also, as I mentioned before I'm looking for one other mid-sized site to join us on our server. Let me know if either is interesting to you. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com