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c, you could always resort to sampling from vinyl into ACiD-PRO, ifya ain't got a willing drummer friend..... best, dt / S-C >I am interested in making complex jazzy/tecno beats of varying tempo to >use in Cubase- I am interested in how this might get done- I have a >multitude >of tools- some of which have been reccomended such as reCycle - I am on >PC- > > > >Some examples of what I am looking to are Chem Bros, Talvin Singh, etc- >but more bebop jazz than electronic techno- > > > >Any tips/ suggestions appreciated-