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I have both of the Ibanez units you mentioned, and I like them both. The AD202 is pretty full-featured, with delay, flange, stereo chorus, and doubling modes. The modulation section is what I like about it. It's also very quiet. A local music store has another one of these for about $150, if I remember correctly. It works well either in-line or on a send, and it has two inputs: mic and instrument (both 1/4"), which are selectable. The UE405 is more of a multi-effects unit, which is also cool, but the delay section only has controls for delay time, regen, and blend. The regen control on mine goes way past unity. This one isn't so quiet, and it requires the footswitch to operate. I tried using this one on an effect send, which works for delay, but the rest of the effects aren't very wet, so they work best in-line. I'm not sure how to access the stereo chorus on these units. I'd have to do some investigation, but the outputs may be TRS. (Anyone with info on this?) -Hans Hans Lindauer Engineer, Music Man R&D Ernie Ball, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Heyoka_face_eater [mailto:wils0450@tc.umn.edu] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 2:51 PM To: Loopers list Subject: analog delays Hi - I'm looking at few different models of analog delay, none of which I am familiar with in a good way. The models are as follows: Yamaha e1010 Yamaha e1005 Ibanez AD202 Ibanez UE405 Any quick opinions? As my favorite OJibwe (a.k.a. Indian, American Red) grandfather always says, "Ba chomp bachomp, ba-chewy chewy chomp." Which translates loosely into "may you always spit mad game at the honeys."