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Since folks are discussing the VG-8, how about the VGA-7 modelling amp? It's sort of like a VG-88 in an amplifier. I just bought one and, so far, I REALLY like it. I haven't scratched the surface yet of its capabilities but even the presets are pretty good. A few I've gone nuts over. The speaker configuration is interesting (2 12" speakers and complementary horns). I'm running the outs into my mixer then, ultimately, into my Echoplex. This is one amazing tool, folks. Regards, Paul