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One thing that I've been able to do with the Line 6 Modeler is record a one to four bar stretch of a song and then use the function that lets you trigger the sample only once (2nd button from the right of the pedal) and then manually trigger the 'loop'. You can even keep the loop in looping mode and occasionally retrigger with that button if the loop starts to drift. This however, necessitates that you hit the loop button (2nd from left) on the downbeat of the next measure because the retrigger button will only fire the sample once. Alternately, I send my 2 line 6 pedals into one of my 3 jammans and merely rerecord the loop. The fidelity of the Line 6 pedal is so vastly superior to the jamman (and discernably superior to the echoplex) that you will experience a degradation of the loop. Since I'm seriously into degradation this is an uplifting experience. No, seriously, in a recording studio this will not cut it , but I'm amazed at how it passes muster in a live situation. Also, my good friend Max Valentino (who just did a beautiful set at our world's first Solo Bass Looping Festival (more on the later when I have recovered from that wonderful experience) hipped me to the fact that Radio Shack carries certified (I think that's the word he used) power supplies that are noticeably quieter than the ones' the Lexicon supplies for the Jamman. He also says that by using only monster cable (or the equivalent) that he has noticed a significant reduction in noise from these beloved but antiquated beasts. I'm going to do it. The absolutely pristine sound coming out of both his and Steve Lawson's rig (who, by the way, is the most flawless live looper I have ever seen!!!!!! He has mastered the art of playing his first loop and IMMEDIATELY playing his second part as he hit the loop completion button-----I have my work cut out for me ;-) His sound was brilliant and he really had a command of preset verbs and effects that would kick into each loop that he added, causing a beautiful 3 dimensional quality to his playing) Rick Walker (loop.pool)