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Stephen wrote: "Speaking of circles, remember how the artist Giotto got his commission to do work for the Vatican... by drawing, by hand, an allegedly perfect circle. This mnemonic is in more places than we're willing to admit I suspect. :)" As long as we've gone from Loops to Circles, I love this anecdote (and please forgive that this is a gross paraphrase). A journalist interviewing Pablo Picasso said, "You are the acknowledged greatest artist of the twentieth century. Whatever you paint or draw, people instantly know that it is a 'Picasso'. Consequently, how do you draw a 'Picasso' circle? To which Picasso replied "I sit down and try to draw a Perfect Circle. Since I am an imperfect human being, what comes out is a 'Picasso' circle" Along similar lines, Brian Eno was asked whether he worried about maintaining creativity constantly, to which he purportedly replied, If every human being on earth who could physically comply was given a piece of white paper and a red crayon and told to draw a picture of a house and a tree, every single drawing that was produced would be absolutely unique. There would be no two drawings that are alike. Yet, houses and trees are not made of white paper and red wax, so each drawing would be a creative interpretation of the what a house and a tree look like. Every human being is creative, whether they want to be or not. Consequently, he said he didn't worry about being creative. My point following these anecdotes is that the only thing we must do as artist is to 'put it out there'. We live in a very dysfunctional and perfectionistic culture that says you should only put energy into any endeavor if you have a chance to be the best (to win the olympics, to sell a million records, to be the fastest guitar player). There is very little support for people to just make music or write songs because it is good for the soul to do so. Consequently, the piano that used to be in many homes in America has virtually dissappeared, funding for musical and art education has been drastically cut back. We have, almost entirely stopped singing or whistling as a culture in public. This is madness!!!! Consequently, I consider it a political and spiritual act of defiance to aggressively put our art 'out there' so that at least younger people in our culture have some kind of 'healthy artistic' template to work off of as they grow up. I just like to do it with looping (he says bringing it back to topic at the last possible moment ;-) Yours, in cultural fomentation, Rick Walker (loop.pool) PS I've told these anecdotes so many times to students and young artists that I know who were worried about people accepting their works that I have completely lost the source material that they came from. Consequently, I know that I have probably altered each anecdote unconciously. Does anybody know where these quotes reside in books? I'd love to reacquaint myself with the 'originals'