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> The extremely cheap and very quirky but cool, ZOOM 1201 has a ring >modulator > and a working vocoder in it for only $149. If they still make them. Yes, excellent boxforthemoney. Excellent autofilter section and 3s of nice clean delay. (2x1.5s). Also the worst reverbs you ever heard. Well I made the Craig Anderton ring mod many years ago. Used too much current to use with batteries. Just one chip with a few components. The carrier signal was a square wave, I reckon a sine wave would be better (more ring less fuzz). The frequency of the carrier would change with a loud input volume (nice) You had to turn a control to cancel out the carrier signal at the output (or use it as a drone effect). If you changed the carrier frequency the carrier would break through again, so you had to null it out again. Best budget ringmod IMHO is the Behringer Modulizer, ( though this still has a square wave carrier, and the original signal seems to break through a bit) Midi controllable, Envelope or LFO control of carrier freq. (or random frequencies), and even a low pass filter . Andy Butler.