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de-lurk: my name is yasi >>be able to A) record separate loops, *each of a different length*, and B) >>then be able to *play them back simultaneously* and adjust the mix, etc. >>From my cursory reading it appears that machines exist which can do >>either A or B but not both. Any suggestions? the lexicon vortex can do two independant loops of different length simultaneously. the ratio of loops lengths will be N/M where N and M are whole numbers between 1 and 64. the loops can not exceed 1 second each. I think you can have seperate outs for each loop the other idea I had was to use the repeater's slip function to fake it. record two tracks. slip one forward by a constant number of ms each time it repeats. if this works out how I imagine you'd get something simlar to 2 loops, with lengths differing by however much you slipped the slippery track forward by on each cycle. But I bet it'd be silent while slipping, so it'd work better for sparse pointilistic stuff. or with a small slip. I imagine you could do this with all the tracks simultaneously with various constant or not midi specified anybody know if this'd work? Damon Langlois? re-lurk