Satie is always forgotten!!! :)
Best,
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 9:54
PM
Subject: Re: audience for 'out' music =
derivitative of jazz
My 2 cents.
It all comes from the inside
out.
There are no walls.
Go for it.
Now, back to writing
my surf music piece.
M..
At 04:29 PM 2/20/01 -0800, you wrote:
>>>>
want to get my 2cents in regarding this lovely
topic:
I think a lot of kids come to "creative" music via Sonic
Youth & out-rockers, at least my circle did. Being the only band on a
major label in the early 90's that sounded absolutely like nothing else on
the radio (and being label-mates w/Nirvana)--made them the most accesible
link to the 'underground' & outsider music. Though this may not be the
most academic/noble path, I think it is just as valid. Acessability. Both of
the music and the history...What w/the web and all...publications like AMG,
Noise From the Underground make it a lot easier if you're looking.
It's easy to assume that the younger crowd (my age, 25 and younger?) isn't
versed in the origins, etc...but not necessarily true. . And I'm not sure
how much that matters in experiencing the music.
This
acessability has yielded larger audiences I think. When I lived in LA area
it seemed like every show featuring Nels had an larger and larger group of
spectators...(he's a hero to kids like me)though, I think he is known 'cause
of his work w/T. Moore and Geraldine Fibbers (not to say he is undeserving
of the attention). Here in Seattle, the annual Improv Festival has a few
shows that sell out. Zorn fills huge formal concert halls when he comes
through town. There is a growing acceptance. And we see the influence of
100+ years of non-traditional, challenging music everywhere...in a
"post-rock", post-Beck/Sonic Youth world, a lot of kids may take for granted
the ability to make what ever kind of music/sounds/noise they want and
actually find an audience. A lot may not know the history and pump out
undisciplined or cliche stuff, but I am thankful we all have that
opportunity.
And there was the question 'is it all derivitive of
jazz'. If you've never heard Ornette or Coltrane, how can it influence you?
And besides, we can thank Cage, (thanks for mentioning him earlier) and
countless others, for freeing up the palet of sound. He himself didn't seem
to have much respect for free jazz. I see at least three lineages--One of
Jazz, one of 'New Music' & avant-garde composition (i.e. serious/formal
musics), one of rock/pop. Rock can be argued I guess.
So, but
anyway, my point is, we can make what ever audible phenomenon we want, using
whatever we can find, w/o any knowledge of why we can, or what came before
that it may bear resemblance to AND captivate an audience and maybe even
sell records! I think it's important to keep faith in those younger than us
(however old you are) for they are the heirs of this old New Free Music and
the future of creative sound formation.
thanks for this thread
& for whatever music you all make out there
:)
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